Euro Nymphing vs. Indicator Fishing

It is well-known that Euro nymphing has emerged as a popular trend in the fly fishing community in recent years, eliciting diverse perspectives among anglers. While some seasoned guides who have been in the industry for decades believe that Euro Nymphing is devaluing the sport, others argue that traditional indicator fishing is outdated. This discussion aims to present a balanced examination of both techniques by highlighting their strengths and limitations. By understanding when and where to apply each method, it is possible to increase stream productivity through an integrated approach. The focus of this post is to provide insights on how to maximize success by combining these two styles.

Fighting a big rainbow taken from a deep run during our competition using the Diamondback 10’ 10” 2WT nymphing rod


Combining Both Styles

As a competitive fisherman, I have had numerous humbling experiences on the river, facing the skillful techniques of indicator fishermen. While these encounters have sometimes left me with a bruised ego, they have also been opportunities for me to reflect on the reasons behind their success. I have made it a personal mission to understand the key components that make a difference in fishing and have come to the conclusion that water type plays a crucial role. The complexity of a river's ecosystem makes it difficult to identify the specific water types that are conducive to Euro or indicator fishing. However, by studying and observing the various water types, I have been able to expand my fishing knowledge and improve my performance. I am continually motivated to learn more and I am eager to share my experiences with other fishermen.

Recently, I had the opportunity to participate in a fishing competition on the Arkansas River with Cody Burgdorf. This river, renowned for its challenging conditions, features tailwater fish that are heavily pressured, deep runs, small flies, and crystal-clear water. On this river, it is not sufficient to rely solely on Euro Nymphing for riffles and runs. The river's large fish use deep slack water for cover during the day and move to shelves to feed in the morning and evening. These fish are known to consume very small patterns, sometimes as small as size 26.

Prior to the competition, Cody and I took the opportunity to practice our techniques. We decided to divide our approaches, with one of us using Euro Nymphing and the other using indicator fishing. In this instance, we utilized a New Zealand-style indicator on a 2wt dry fly line and a 20ft leader. To our surprise, we both caught an equal number of fish by the end of the day, but each caught them from different water types. Cody focused on deep troughs, casting long lines with small size 22 flies and split shot for weight, while I targeted riffles and runs with eggs, streamers, and small baetis.

The results of our practice session demonstrated the efficacy of both techniques and the benefits of combining them. By using both Euro Nymphing and indicator fishing, I would have access to a much broader range of the river and its fish, rather than limiting myself to one technique or the other. This highlights the importance of understanding the water type and adapting one's approach accordingly to maximize success on the river.

Euro Nymphing

Euro nymphing is a highly regarded technique in the fishing world due to its efficiency and effectiveness in catching fish. With the increasing popularity of this style of fishing, many anglers have discovered that Euro nymphing provides quick and successful results. One of the key factors contributing to its success is the continuous contact between the angler and the flies, enabling precise control over the weight of the fly patterns. This level of customization and control allows anglers to tailor their fishing style to suit the specific conditions and environment.

Whether it be in riffles, runs, deep troughs, or any other type of water with continuous flow, Euro nymphing has proven to be a versatile and highly effective method. By keeping the flies in close proximity to the angler, the technique allows for greater sensitivity and detection of even the slightest strikes. Additionally, the use of longer, thin rods and lightweight lines, which are hallmarks of Euro nymphing, allow for improved presentation and precise drifts, further increasing the chances of a successful catch.

As a competitive angler with over eight years of experience in Euro nymphing all over the country an world, I have honed my skills and this technique in a variety of environments and water conditions, from pockets to runs and riffles and everything in between. I have found that, in the majority of my fishing experiences, I prefer to use the Euro rig over an indicator rig, due to the increased level of connection and manipulation I can create during drifts.

The main advantage of using a Euro rig is the direct contact between the angler and the flies, as opposed to relying on an indicator. This allows me to sense every obstacle my flies encounter, such as rocks and boulders, as well as detect any subtle strikes that may occur. This heightened level of sensitivity provides me with more information and ultimately improves my chances of a successful catch. Hookup ratio on a Euro nymphing rig to an indicator rig is pretty astonishing. I am able to pinpoint where my fly is at all times during the drift while being able to adjust it higher and lower in the water column with my rod tip.

I am opposed to using an indicator when fly fishing as it requires constant adjustment to change the depth at which I am fishing and constant mending. With Euro nymphing there is no need for any of that and the angler is able to spend a lot more time fishing and less on the water rigging. This method is more efficient and eliminates the need to unscrew and adjust an indicator each time I want to fish deeper in a run. While I prefer Euro Nymphing, there are situations where using an indicator setup is necessary. That's why I always carry two rods, one for each method, or a rod that I convert into a dry dropper rig most of the time.


Indicator fishing
Indicator fishing, also known as bobber fishing, has become a popular method within the fly fishing community and is unlikely to lose popularity in the near future. Despite not being the preferred method for some anglers, the use of an indicator rig requires a significant amount of skill and technique to be effective.

One of the major benefits of indicator fishing is its simplicity and ease of use. Anglers can set up their rig and let it sit for extended periods of time, making it a less physically demanding form of fishing. While traditional indicator fishing often involves tying on hooks and using split shot, many anglers now employ a hybrid style, utilizing tags and European-style flies for added versatility.

However, it's important to acknowledge that indicator fishing still requires a certain level of knowledge and expertise. Understanding how to properly adjust the indicator and rig to match the conditions of the water, as well as the type of water to fish, are crucial for success. The use of an indicator does not negate the need for careful observation and attention to detail, as effective indicator fishing still requires the angler to maintain a high level of awareness and engagement with their fishing gear.

As a guide, I utilize indicator rigs throughout the summer season and have made several personal modifications to my setup. I believe that indicator fishing is an excellent way to introduce someone to the sport of fly fishing, as the visual cue of the indicator provides a clear signal when a fish strikes. This allows for an easy learning experience, particularly for those who are new to fly fishing.

In addition to its simplicity, indicator fishing is also known for its ease of casting. The use of an indicator rig can make it easier for beginners to control the speed and direction of their casts, leading to improved accuracy and overall success on the water.

While indicator fishing may be a more straightforward method, it still requires careful attention to detail and an understanding of the water and the fish being targeted. Effective indicator fishing requires an angler to constantly monitor the indicator and make adjustments to their rig as conditions change.

One of the primary drawbacks of indicator fishing is the disconnection between the angler and the flies. This lack of direct contact can result in missed strikes, difficulty in accurately gauging the location of the flies, and a lack of finesse in presentation.Furthermore, the indicator is not always a real-time representation of the position of the flies. This can lead to situations where an angler sets the hook and watches the flies launch out of the water, either far ahead or far behind the indicator, resulting in missed fish.



So what will you be a Euro nymphing enthusiast or a die hard indicator angler? My concise leads me somewhere in the middle. I will always experiment will all types of fishing whether I use them for my competition fishing or my guiding.

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